thanks jim i finally got it turned on and the temp is showing so it was in there. a gutter man cannot afford it! i took my wife with me and she can....lol. hows that? yes sir i built up alot of browny points to get that one....lmao. naw really i had a plan and it saved me some and i got lucky and saved some more at the store. first plan was the first purchase on a credit card will save 150 bucks from bps or 10% up to a 1500.00 purchase. :wink:  so that was my game plan when i walked in the store since they keep asking me to get one(credit card). well i go in the store and all they had was the display....didnt really want that one but the manager knocked off 10% more. so i said i will take it if everything is in the box for it. :wink: i had some reward points built up also plus a gift card and laid it all on the line and was hoping for some change but i still owed them 1710.00 with tax included so i was still happy. new price was 1999.99 plus tax. also i had the wife get the card in her name and if i want something later on i will get me one. :wink:  i been saving up for it anyways so i will just pay it off when the bill comes. they wouldnt let me pay it off in the store. all kinds of ways to save money for folks though to do things. i quit smoking cigarettes and paid for a hunting trip to canada with the money saved. it all adds up. :wink: plus if i can get hummingbird to send me a rebate for changing out a lowrance i will really be doing good. :lol: yea the book is confusing to me some but i think i was reading too deep into it some also. now im really going to reading alot to learn how to work it....lol. thats the fun part though. thanks for your help. [smilie=a_goodjob.gif]

can i catch fish setting at the computer then? :lol:  man i already like this thing. naw i havent messed with much yet. i just got the baot back together and the mess cleaned up but im looking forward to seeing the side image work in the water tommorrow. what got me to wanting it so bad was a cousin of mine i ran into at the lake last weekend and he was telling me about all things he has seen on a couple of ours lakes and i couldnt stand it.....lol. just wondering does muddy water effect these things any?

well i seen it in action last night. i noticed my speed on the screen was off for some reason. i got to just take it to the lake and play around with it instead of fishing one day. it was a big step up from my mononchrome screen to color though. i got to move the transducer up some too. i got a rooster tail and im loosing bottom at 30 mph on the graph but i have the digital read out in the corner. found a few things i hadnt seen before and couldnt find a few brush piles i had found before with my rods....lol. maybe they was tree roots and im just not seeing them. i didnt mess with the sens. last night either. its going to take some time for me to work the bugs out but i like it so far. i do see a big advantage to side imaging in the future too. it will just take time to find the hidden treasures. :wink:

yep i need to adjust then becuase im pretty sure it was set for a 150 ft. to each side. so its just too much area for the screen to show good details. i havnet read that far in the catalog yet....lol. jim how much are the cards for these humminbirds? i havent even looked at them yet.

hey jim can you get a bottom reading at full trottle on your unit? i know i had my transducer set too low and i raised it up and havent had a chance to run it again yet. i asked another guy if his read at full trottle and he said he didnt read the bottom out past 25 ft. so some folks dont fish santee but i do.....lol. i hope raising mine will take care of my problem so just wondering.

thanks again jim. i guess the big transducers are like a plow in the water at high speeds.

Micheal,
If I'm reading mine right here's what I thought was happening. If your using the graph page the fish in the small cone under the boat will show up on the left side of the side image screen (the water column part (if your looking right w/ the side image). The some of the fish in the 83kHz cone will show up slightly in the side image in deeper water due to the wider cone showing a larger area on the bottom. The 200 / 83 split screen is handy to see whats further away for the boat. I use the DF setting 100% of the time, and increase the sensitivity as the water gets deeper. In 30 feet of water my typical setting is 12 in shallow water I set it to 3 or 4. I've set the 83kHz setting to minus 2 and compared it to the lowrance unit on the troller and it was dead on at that setting. Surface clutter and noise both turned off seems to give the clearest image for me on the regular graph. Finding fish in the side image is tricky at best for me w/the 797's smaller screen and my bad eyes. The small white lines are hard to see for me esp. during the day. What settings have y'all been using? And what setting are you using on the side imaging sensitivity?

Mike the fish on the side image will show up as a little horizontal white streak,,,,when I say little I mean little,,,your compressing 50 ft of detail down to 5 inches, so a 5 ft long fish is 1/10  of the area your looking at, so 1/10 of 5 inches would be a half inch white streak.......but that is only if you pass by him and he is broadside to the transducer---whats the chances of that happening  , dont use the side finder to find fish, use it to understand how the structure layout is for your presentation of bait.