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« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2008, 01:58:50 AM »

10/4 jim ...thats why i want the 52" big screen monitor setting on the dash. :2wink: could you image seeing that coming down the lake? grin you could have a drive in movie on the the screen. grin
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« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2008, 07:02:18 PM »

Found this trolling around, don't know if any of you have every checked it out.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sideimaging/

I learned a good bit more on tuning and snapshots under the files section. This dam thing does way more than I give it credit for. Cheers, Jim
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« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2008, 02:29:20 PM »

ok in response to arches being there and then looking at the side image...well with the typical sonar screen your looking at a combination of 20 and 60 degree cones,,,with the fishy symbols you can see which one is in the 20 degree cone (orange) and the ones that are outside of it in the 60 degree cone (blue) --- I'll keep repeating myself till I turn blue in the face  :2stupid: there aint nothing wrong with using the the fishy symbols --- thats old school --- those engineers and techs no more about what should be represented by a fishy symbol than we ever will  grin  Next the SI view starts at about a 30 degree angle (some where between the edge of the 20 and the 60) and goes upwards from there,,,,so the bottom of your screen is what is closest to the left or right of your boat and the top of the screen is the furtherst distance out that you probably set it for like 50 ft or up to 150 ft with the 797 on one side or 300 ft for both side images.  Now to understand what your seeing as the screen scrolls from right to left imagine putting on a set of mule blinders that only allows you to see straight ahead ---I know for some of you guys mule blinders will be just the ticket  smiley now with your chin on your chest look down and raise your head to level and look straight ahead----now do this while side stepping to the left and that is how side imaging works....you slowly paint a picture moving from right to left with the bottom of the screen being closest to your feet and the furtherst is that wall your looking at. laugh 

So where are the fish on the side image---they are the white streaks in which the sonar frequency cant see thru to paint the picture of what is behind it.  Sometimes the fish are under your feet and you cant see them on the SI.  Well that's about as simple a translation to common redneck - hillbilly - southern appalacha as I can explain it.  koolsmiley
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« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2008, 02:31:52 PM »

I just paid $30 bucks for a 4 meg card!  I'll be able to record for days   cheesy
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« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2008, 02:37:27 PM »

Yep,,,steal my unit but leave the card  grin grin grin grin grin
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« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2008, 03:03:19 PM »

Sorry Jim jus had to say it. One advantage to using the arches on a color humminbird is you can tell the difference between scaled fish and catfish a skinned fish. A large Scaled fish will always give you a red blob all the way across the top of the arch. A catfish will only give you a red mark or blob in the center or toward the thicker end of the arch. I'll get some Images to show the difference.  Knowing this has helped me alot identifying fish during tourneys. Carp, Gar and Stipers sure get you excited on the FF. Being able to tell difference will save alot of time fishing for unwanted species and help win some money..
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« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2008, 03:16:57 PM »

My arches are still there---they are under/below the fishy symbols---do my birds work differently than everybody elses?  shocked Both my Matrix 37 and the 797 SI does this...but that is kool to know about the color symbolizism,,,cant wait to see an example or two
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« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2008, 02:55:09 AM »

Sorry Jim jus had to say it. One advantage to using the arches on a color humminbird is you can tell the difference between scaled fish and catfish a skinned fish. A large Scaled fish will always give you a red blob all the way across the top of the arch. A catfish will only give you a red mark or blob in the center or toward the thicker end of the arch. I'll get some Images to show the difference.  Knowing this has helped me alot identifying fish during tourneys. Carp, Gar and Stipers sure get you excited on the FF. Being able to tell difference will save alot of time fishing for unwanted species and help win some money..

Ive seen this with the gar here. I notice i get a solid red arch on the gar. On my old lowrance the gar would be a 1/4 to 1/2" thick arch very defined too i might add. They seem to hang out in a certain area here and i have done enough gar fishing for catfish that i now know they not catfish! Thats why when some one tells me they marked big fish but they wouldnt bite i go to thinking about the garr hole. grin Steve im starting to see what you talking about with the yellow arch and the red centers also. Now the flatheads to me seem to be a much thinner arch than the blues here even on my lowrance the flatheads looked like pencil marks on the screen. I know they was flatheads too because when i seen the pencil marks i caught em. Im referring to wintering holes for flatheads.

  Jim what your saying is when i mark fish on the graph part and flip to side image and there is nothing there then its the differnece in the angle of the signal from side image to graph image. I fished a tourney here last month and the area i fished wasnt marking nothing!!!! Guess what it was won where i was fishing by another team drifting and we finished 4th and lost the best fish i have hook all year so far. Later after the weigh in i talked to the winners and told them i wasnt marking anything...he laughed and said you not going to...they laying in the mud! The fish was there but the depth finder was useless that day. I fished tuesday here and we marked good fish before daylight and anchored. Caught one fish and 2 hours later moved. When we moved the fish was gone...i couldnt help but think maybe they laid down on the bottom again and we couldnt mark them. The one we caught was covered in mud. That area generally holds fish?
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« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2008, 11:59:30 AM »

 Alright I got a few pictures today from the side image.
 First picture is a school of fish casting a shadow on the bottom.


These next pictures are of a school of fish that wouldnt bite for nothing!
 all four pictures came from the same spot. I seen them and had to go back and look again. :2wink: Can anyone can point me in the right direction as to what these fish where. There was tons of bait in the area.



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« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2008, 01:37:15 PM »

I'm gonna guess that your over a school of grass carp due to all the variations in size and the long shadows
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« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2008, 05:49:54 PM »

 No grass carp in this lake that I know of Jim. Most of the carp have been up river spawning. Maybe gar? Lots of them but most of the time those make a solid red arch on my graph but since adding the transducer with the splitter cable I havent seen a solid red arch. I was in a school of gar earlier today also. I seen them on top and marked similar arches but not as many stacked together.
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« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2008, 06:05:41 PM »

Grass carp will surprise you the places they show up  grin two other possiblities,,Drum and regurlar carp,,they both should be done spawning down there
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« Reply #42 on: May 17, 2008, 06:16:50 PM »

I just tried my 797ci NVB for the first time today, check out this screensnap from when I was heading under the CSX tracks in Aquia Creek (Potomac River). It looks all the old railroad ties were left in the river!


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« Reply #43 on: May 18, 2008, 02:50:09 PM »

Grass carp will surprise you the places they show up  grin two other possiblities,,Drum and regurlar carp,,they both should be done spawning down there

Well I havent heard of anyone saying they was in there but I cannot say for sure they arent in there.(grass carp) Never heard of a drum being in the yadkin chain either. Plenty of regular carp though. I really starting to lean towards gar here myself. there is plenty of them and they dont seem to be boat sensitive either to me. These fish was run over and over again and never moved. Stripers also crossed my mine but I dont think they would of remained with the boats traffic around them as it was.

Nice shot of the RR ties. Bring that side range in and it will show you alot more detail. :2wink:
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« Reply #44 on: May 18, 2008, 03:30:18 PM »

Nice shot of the RR ties. Bring that side range in and it will show you alot more detail. :2wink:

It can do that? Sweet! To the boat I go!   smiley

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