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« on: August 12, 2007, 01:38:52 PM » |
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hey guys are these units worth the price? i been looking at the 997 hummingbird and it runs around 2 grand or so. i have a lowrance that will mark bait and fish fine and i also dont have any trouble with the gps part on it. whats drawing my attention to this side imaging is being able to locate structure with it. i just feel like big fish mostly lay around some type of structure and alot of my lakes are getting old without much contour to them and i was thinking maybe if i had one of these units i could locate better structure than im seeing on my lowrance. i dont really want to get away from my lowrance because im happy with it and just trust it at this point. what i been thinking about is just adding this hummingbird to my boat and keep my lowrance as a overkill i guess until i learn the hummingbird. also do you need calm water to get a good side image view with these units? what about the transducers also. how low do they set in the water below the boat? also im looking at this as a flathead advantage because they love that structure. so lets here some thought on this by some of you that have them.....side imaging units
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catfishrus
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2007, 02:02:23 PM » |
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hey thanks for the quick response and plenty of info. to keep me busy studing my next purchase. :  : |
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WVBowhunter
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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2007, 02:12:24 PM » |
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I've had two bird products and 3 lowrance---I like the birds better jmo
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catfishrus
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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2007, 03:23:24 PM » |
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well has the side imaging part really been a plus for you as far as finding new structure that you didnt know was there before? kind of like i just heard the other day that there was a house under the water at one of the lakes i fish. dont know where its located but heard it was a old rock house. also heard there was a old t model truck in the water that you could see the frame rails on when the water went down a few years ago. thats the kind of stuff i want to find. its kind of like a old bridge structure in the water. the whole thing could be good fishing but there is one or two spots that will hold the most fish for some reason most of the time. just hard to pick them out and understand why they are like they are with a regular graph. also heard in the king cat classic last year that most of the top teams had one. now if thats true then thats saying alot for side imaging.
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WVBowhunter
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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2007, 03:34:55 PM » |
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Well it does so some structure that you'l never know was there : : I got the maps with mine and that is nice,,,running in the dark, thru the fog and unfamiliar water : : I guess I need to post a few more pictures I have saved,,,I think I got one with the outline of a flatty laying along side of a submerged log |
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2007, 02:04:17 PM » |
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Post up some new pics Jim! Tried to get into th Yahoo thing, but it's running me around in a circle wanting logins and emails, then starting me right back at the first login again. Crappy programing there if you as me. No wonder hardly anyone uses yahoo groups. Anyways, lets see some shots from that thang! Presquile cut? 70 ft hole? Benjamin Harrison Bridge where the debri field from the collapse is?
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WVBowhunter
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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2007, 02:25:17 PM » |
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WVBowhunter
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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2007, 02:29:44 PM » |
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catfishrus
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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2007, 04:09:10 PM » |
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thanks for the pictures. im not sure im looking at it the right way, so i can see it would take a few trips to get it figured out. doesnt seem real detailed to me but i guess its because the picture is covering alot of area. i just dont know anything about them yet. keep the input coming though because im interested. jim how low does your transducer set below the boat?
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WVBowhunter
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« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2007, 05:20:19 PM » |
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Yeah confuses a lot of people at what they are looking at---my transducer sets about even with the bottom of my boat,,I still dont have it quite right for high speed bottom ranging,,but I either know where I'm going or slow down : : check out some of the views with the right scan only so I can explain that--my motor interfers with looking left and you dont get the clarity and resolution so I mainly just look to my right with the side scan top of the si scan is latest information with the oldest being at the bottom, left side is directly under the boat while the right is the distance up to 300 ft,,,I use 50 and 100 mainly any more so I get more information on the smaller screen. Now image from the bottom of the screen to the top as that being 5000 narrow slices of sonar from the surface to the bottom with it starting out at maybe a 20 degree angle down and to the right of the boat. Next imagine you are standing on the bottom and looking right---that is your total image for binocular vision. you do have to use your imagination a little but it works as you can see the hull of the sunken barge, a keel sticking up, logs laying down, stick ups and others. Remember the picture with the "fishys" then an arrow down into the side image...the white spot is that fish, thats the way they show up on side image. right below the white spot is a swirl hole cut into the river bottom--look closely and you can clearly see that---look back up at the coventional screen---see the deep section in the traditional look---thats the swirl hole. next above the fishy was a series of dots in a straight line---those are the pilings driven into the bottom for the old shipping docks. Remember with the left views Traditional old is at the left new is at the right and down is down lol. Si scan old is at the bottom new is at the top, left is down and right is the image out to the distance you have set to scan---in most of my images that is to the right. |
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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2007, 02:08:35 PM » |
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Boy, I been havin' my eye on one of them things too. I've been in three different boats that had 'em and they are awesome. If I had the cash, I'd have one. Michael, talk to Jim at Badin, he's got the smaller one and said he loves it. I seen that big structure at Falls dam with one, it looks like a big box on the bottom. One time, I was crappie fishign with a buy that had one and he used ti to locate brushpiles, mark 'em and then we would load the coolers. That's all there was to it. It would be great for flatheads, you could get up on a bank and scan for 'em in the summertime, or find good structure anyway. see ya
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catfishrus
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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2007, 11:27:24 AM » |
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well i bit the sales pitch today and invested in a 997. so i got a question for you guys. mine didnt come with a speed and temp sensor. am i mising a piece or is this normal with hummingbird? do i need it to get a water temp? i didnt have a speed sensor on my lowrance and i still got a surface temp on the screen. so do i need it on the hummingbird? also hummingbird should give a kick back to the lowrance folks for changing out. :wink: i cannot believe i fell for it but i like it so far but i havent seen it on yet....lol.
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WVBowhunter
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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2007, 12:19:59 PM » |
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Depending on which 997 you got it should have the temp built into the transducer, did you get the Si C2 if so it's there---you just got to go into your menu options and set that up to display. If you got the gps antenna hooked up you will get your speed displayed on the map screen......yeah I know---that book is as thick as a bible,,,lots of reading to get ya thru this rainny and high water period,,,,maybe you can use it in the drive way :shock: :lol: dang with this years drought, I dont understand how a guy in the gutter business can afford one of those :mrgreen: :lol:
Now ya gotta run out and buy ya a 2 meg memory card so you can save all that important stuff and take screen shots and stuff.
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