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before ya going trashing these ya might want to check one out or check with somebody as to what they think of em,,,,I know Robby (Katfish) got a couple a year or two back and he liked em...what about it Robby,,,are yers still ticking?

Mike and I fish in complete darkness and rely on clickers to alert us of bites.

This is difficult enough when catydids and locusts sound like our clickers but if the clickers aren't very loud we must strain and worry all night.

Also with Abus going into gear if a chipmunk or mouse runs into the handle at night it makes us nervous.

BTW
Those fancy handles won't fit on regular Abus---I tried to put one on a 6500 to make it feel more like a TC.

Bass Pro shops is also selling a 6500 knock off in 2 different sizes. I haven't heard any reviews of these reels but Bass Pro Shops should have better customer relations than e-bay sellers do.