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« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2007, 10:56:29 AM »
Hey Thanks, I went back and read the post, I must have been the only one on this thread that couldn't spell. :P   One of these days I'll learn to type with more then two fingers too. :lol:
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« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2007, 12:18:28 PM »
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LMAO @  Fishhook.....maybe everybody knows ya---sorry I couldnt resist......Members are only allowed to edit their own posts,,,,mods and staffs can edit everyone elses post,,,but its done very rarely as we love to watch everyone elses spelling mistakes....Now back to the lead,,,,ever wonder about the lead in soldier on your copper pipes....for about the first 30 or so days that lead can be absorbed into your body and do bad things, after that it developes an oxide coating and the levels of lead in your drinking water drop dramatically almost to the point of non exsisting amounts.   Same think for sinkers, shot, and any other items we sportsmen "pollute" the streams with....back to the lead poisoned water fowl,,,,after studying thousands of waterfowl the did come up with 1 that maybe died from lead poisioning---the still weren't sure, but that was enough for the tree huggers and anti hunters to run to their protective politicians with.  Now with the advent of new technologies with replacements for lead sinkers---a nice little niche market for those that feel guilty using lead sinkers---the processes and methods to obtain these materials are just as bad if not worse than the lead itself.  We need to just monitor ourselves with a healthy dose of common sense and all will be well.



i agree 1000% jim
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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2007, 08:35:57 PM »
its simply bc big time bc it simply will not happen heck it seems to me with all the  avid hunters here another high priority is not ever voting a president into office that would consider removing and demolishing everyones guns anyhow with that said they did do it in canada noone can own a gun there now and they also did this in many other countries now thats bc also but as far as them making fishermen stop useing lead it wont happen
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« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2007, 03:21:56 AM »
here is one study done in michigan.
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http://www.michiganloons.org/lead.htm
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« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2007, 03:34:03 AM »
New regulations

In many areas, non-lead tackle isn't just a good idea ¿ it's the law. Restrictions and bans of lead fishing sinkers and jigs are becoming more common in the United States and other countries.

· New Hampshire has banned the use of lead fishing sinkers that weigh less than an ounce and lead jigs smaller than an inch.

· Maine and New York have banned the sale of lead sinkers weighing a half-ounce or less.

· In Minnesota, new bills were introduced in the Minnesota Senate (S.F. No. 23) and House of Representatives (H.F. No. 192) in 2003 that would prohibit both the sale and use of lead sinkers in the state.

· Great Britain banned the use of lead sinkers in 1987.

· In Canadian national parks and national wildlife areas, it is illegal to use lead fishing sinkers and jigs weighing less than 50 grams, a ban that went into effect in 1997.

· The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is currently discussing the ban of lead sinkers and jigs on National Wildlife Refuges where loons and trumpeter swans breed.
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« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2007, 05:03:40 AM »
Again the tree huggin, PETA types are winning. I say it's time to take our country back from these kind of people, but that's just me.
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« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2007, 08:30:26 AM »
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New regulations

In many areas, non-lead tackle isn't just a good idea ¿ it's the law. Restrictions and bans of lead fishing sinkers and jigs are becoming more common in the United States and other countries.

· New Hampshire has banned the use of lead fishing sinkers that weigh less than an ounce and lead jigs smaller than an inch.

· Maine and New York have banned the sale of lead sinkers weighing a half-ounce or less.

· In Minnesota, new bills were introduced in the Minnesota Senate (S.F. No. 23) and House of Representatives (H.F. No. 192) in 2003 that would prohibit both the sale and use of lead sinkers in the state.

· Great Britain banned the use of lead sinkers in 1987.

· In Canadian national parks and national wildlife areas, it is illegal to use lead fishing sinkers and jigs weighing less than 50 grams, a ban that went into effect in 1997.

· The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is currently discussing the ban of lead sinkers and jigs on National Wildlife Refuges where loons and trumpeter swans breed.


This only adds credability to the fact that the only lead problem in the enviroment is whats small enough for water foul to ingest and cause lead poisoning. Most states have a law for that already. I think the rest of those laws is no more then ignorance on the part of the very law makers who made then. Something like our federal goverment.
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« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2008, 10:51:00 AM »
I know this is from 2007 but Vermont is now on the bandwagon to get rid of lead.  Laws have been passed that sinkers less than 1/2 oz. have to be lead free.  AND they ask that you not use small lead jigs but it's not against the law yet.

Well being a home molder since I was 13, I have checked out alternate materials and after talking to some companies through Crappie.com and Tackleunderground.com the closest to lead that we could come up with is 70% Bismuth/30% Tin.  Still not as heavy but near it.  Split shot you'd have to buy straight tin so you could use pliers to close it.

Now here's the fun part!!!  Most of the companies carry 60%Bis/40%tin at a cost of about $20.99 lb.  Some allow small weight purchases some don't.  Many require you to purchase at least 50 lbs.  That would run around $500 plus!!!!!!

Now living up here in the Northeast I would really like to carry one tackle box that's allowed whereever I go!!!!! 

I really think tackle companies are behind this, as it's forcing alot of people to abandon pouring altogether.  So while you can keep pouring and using it within the law.

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