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« on: April 13, 2007, 06:58:32 PM »

ok some people say  when they fish for flattys the hardley use light and are like deer hunter quiet  and some of you crash your boat right on top of em  in structure is there differnt times of the year one is better than the other?????????????????
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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2007, 03:05:52 AM »

I normally don't bang things around in the boat anytime so I don't really know whether it spooks flats or not and as for the structure I anchor away from it and just put my bait near or in the structure, this works best for me.
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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2007, 05:38:11 AM »

I will tell you that lights definately frighten flathead.
I have actually used spotlights to steer hooked
flathead away from brush while my partner
fought them.

You do not have to just blindly believe me though.
The next time you hook a big flathead, reel it up
close and put a light on it just before you intend
to net it. The flatheads reaction to the light should
convince you if it is afraid of lights or not. :grin:

Actually I have selected flathead spots across
a bay from a group of catmen using lanterns
and making quite a bit of noise. Any flathead
feeding moved away from their bank and to
mine  :shock:

I could definately tell if their group caught a
channel cat because the excitement and noise
level went up. Although they didn't catch a
 flathead I caught several. My conclusion was
that the flathead seemed to be acting more
natural on my side. It could be that for several
 nights none of the the loud bunch got "lucky"
 and I got "lucky" pretty consistently.

The best way to find what works best where
you fish is to keep trying things till you get
good results. Pattern the fish and once you
 understand enough of the puzzle you will catch fish.

As far as how close you must fish to structure, this
depends on the mood of the fish.  The more active
 the fish are, the farther you can set your baits from
 structure. Mike found out last year that if you put
a bait too close to an innactive flathead he
will attack it. I haven't found a way to determine
how active fish are other than by fishing.

Flathead are very frustrating because even proven
methods go through periods when the fish don't
 cooperate.
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2007, 08:11:58 AM »

great post Robby!
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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2007, 04:01:44 PM »

I agree with Robby and I think it is safe to say that Flatheads have never read any of the Books or articules wrote about them so they will do something different at any given moment just to keep you on your toes  [smilie=a_holyshit.gif]  :damnfunny  :damnfunny  :damnfunny
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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2007, 04:17:27 PM »

Quote from: "Doug158"
I agree with Robby and I think it is safe to say that Flatheads have never read any of the Books or articules wrote about them so they will do something different at any given moment just to keep you on your toes  [smilie=a_holyshit.gif]  :damnfunny  :damnfunny  :damnfunny

lmao yuppers they will very rarely do what is expected of em lol maybe we can start trainin em or something lol
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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2007, 06:08:20 PM »

I can speak from experience on this one. For years i fished like the guys in Robbys post. Lots of noise and lanterns that would light up the whole river bank. I very seldom caught a flatty but always caught small channels. The last couple of years the only light i take with me is a flashlight in case i need to tie a new hook on. I don't like shining the light out where i am fishing either. Have caught alot more flatties and bigger channels since i have done this. Hope these posts have answered your question! :smile:
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2007, 07:11:17 PM »

I use to do alot of bass fishing and 80% of my bass fishing was done with my dad at night,we would take our 10' jon boat and hop from pit to pit and my dad didnt want any noise or light. he use to make me grab the side of the boat and hed grab the other and wide tilt it and slowly drop it in the water and be careful to never scrap the boat on the bank, after that the only noise you would hear would be the slight movement of the paddle in the water as my dad slowly sculled the boat and the clatter of a buzz bait or spit and pop of a top water plug going through the water and also the sound of a bass exploding on a top water bait. he use to tell me over and over how well sound and light traveled at night even over water. i just always thought he was full of it and he was just paranoid or somthing..after all i knew everything and my dad didnt know a thing  :roll:  he catfished much the same way,no light no sound and wed tear up the cats. i started to realize my dad knew what he was talking about when i started fishing with my friends and wed be out actin goofy and not really caring how much noise we made but we always complained about never catchin any fish..i started to put 2 and 2 together and realized my dad was on to somthing lol
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2007, 05:41:26 PM »

kris i used to be the same way..... now things are a whole different ball game.....
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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2007, 06:41:51 PM »

i use a little lightevery now and again
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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2007, 02:18:50 AM »

Yep---Robby pretty well sumed it up,,,quiet and dark will lead to bigger and better fish---it wont help your patience one bit thou lol.  I personally think the bite is a little better a few weeks after the spawn going into the fall, then the spring prespawn bite.
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2007, 02:28:27 AM »

Quote from: "WVBowhunter"
Yep---Robby pretty well sumed it up,,,quiet and dark will lead to bigger and better fish---it wont help your patience one bit thou lol.  I personally think the bite is a little better a few weeks after the spawn going into the fall, then the spring prespawn bite.

I agree with you Jim,I have always caught my most and biggest fish post spawn or leading into the fall all the way up until the first of November. September-mid October being my favorite time.
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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2007, 11:26:52 PM »

I never shine lights out of my boat
unless the flat needs some steering.
For baiting up I have a red light that I
can switch on and off. I always sit with
no boat lights either. The dark stretches
I prefer have no light on any night and
I'm not gonna add any. If you are
after smaller fish, by all means shine
your lights and build your fire high.
I don't catch small fish unless I picked
the wrong area. But I know I won't
catch large fish if I have a floating
amusement park as my base. It was
just trial and error.
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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2007, 03:12:01 PM »

i bank fish ALL of the time on a small river and i try to be as quiet as possible (no radios blaring, no loud talking). as far as lanterns i have seen no difference in the amount of flatties that i catch while using a lantern and when im not using one.  i do believe however that larger flatheads are afraid of bright lights, i use my lantern for safety reasons (due to health problems i cant be tripping and falling down ). i ALWAYS fish near as much wood as possible and have caught flatties in water as shallow as 2 ft deep.  my preferred baits are in this order.....Creek Chubs (as big as i can get)........bluegills and rockbass.......and live shiners !!!!  

good luck !!!

 i hope this helps out alittle !!

im no expert ive only been fishing for flatties for 2 years  !!! the river i fish has lot of flatties in the 5-10 lb range with fish 20 lbs not being uncommon  !!! ive heard of a few as big as 40-50 lbs being caught !!
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