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« on: December 29, 2006, 10:22:06 PM » |
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welp as im sure most of you do,i offten set arround and think of new rigs or ways to improve rigs to increase my flathead catch and i came up with this,its sorta a set line deal but it with a rod and reel. see i fish this place id like to fish with a flot but the problem is i can never keep my bait where i want it when i use a float so i thought of this.....the water there is roughly 5' i thought about taking a pole that is about 7' long and driving it into the bottom,this pole will have another pole coming off the top of it to form an upside down "L" the pole that on the top will have a hole drilled in it..ill tie a peice of 2# mono to the hole long enough to where i can place a bait about 2.5' under the surface. take my line from my rod and reel and boat it out to the pole,bait my hook with a big ole gill or some othe rlive bait and tie the 2# mono to a swivel about 18" from the hook..when a flat grabs the bait and takes off the 2# line will snap and ill have him on rod an reel.heres a diagram of what im talking about.  dont worry about hurtin my feelings...if ya think its a stupid idea let me know but giv eme the reason why ya think its stupid and also if anyone already knows of a rig liek this or uses one let me know how well it works. |
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2006, 01:29:32 AM » |
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i don't think it's stupid, but if that is out in the water i would worry about a boat hitting it. even marked there would for sure be someone that would hit it. good idea other wise.
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MadKatter
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2006, 07:27:00 AM » |
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well they place i would have these set at is a big log field that is basicly impassible with a motor boat..in fact no gas motors allowed on the lake...but for saftey sake an orange flag on top would do the trick i reckon.
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2006, 08:48:05 AM » |
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As long as the bottom is soft enough, to get the pole to stay stuck in the bottom it should work, come spring let us know"
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MadKatter
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2006, 09:33:11 AM » |
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if the bottom is hard i could do somthing like put the pol ein a cinder block and then fill the hole in with concrete and itll just be like an anchore..but then comes the hard part of pulling it back up lol
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katman
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2006, 04:14:31 PM » |
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 two rods, an "anchor" rod, and a fighting rod.a release clip holds the two lines together and when a fish hits your bait the lines come apart. the anchor rod has no hook, but a big weight with nails in it to stick to the bottom. this is called a pin rig and is done for king mackeral and cobia off of piers, but I do it here for musky below a dam. |
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2006, 04:16:04 PM » |
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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2006, 07:41:18 PM » |
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Madkatter I have tried various rigs to suspend baits. One included hanging baits off of overhead limbs by rubber bands. The idea was that a flathead taking the bait would break the rubber band and I could fight the fish. One of the problems was that I fish lakes and the remainder of the line was ontop of the water exposed to ducks and beavers and bassmasters and other critters. I tried this several times without a flathead taking the bait. This is not abnormal for me and my baits though :  : Catchabiggun, Robby |
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Digger
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2007, 06:26:32 AM » |
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What about using a spring loaded clothes pin. Screw one leg of it to a long stick and suspend it over the hole. A flathead taking that would surely pull the line out from between the lips of the pin without even noticing it.
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SuperDave
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2007, 06:52:33 AM » |
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I think 1/4" square cold rolled or somthing of the like is worth looking at.Thats what ive found works best for my bank fishnig rod holders.It seems to work better and penetrate easier on more different types of terrain compared to rebar or tent spikes etc. : : I would think other types of rigs would be better suited for this type of presentation,but sometimes you dont know until ya try and see what happens for yourself. : : |
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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2007, 07:33:46 AM » |
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First, suspended baits do work, thats why so many people use slip bobber rigs successfully. The only thing I didnt care for was the 2# test line---I'm afraid in some situations it would spook the cats before a hookup would occur....so using a clip apparatus such as down rigger clips, clothespins, even paper clips should even work better
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MadKatter
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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2007, 07:51:18 AM » |
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i guess id have to expirament with what i can use to suspend the baits,a clothes pin sounds better than my mono idea and i was also thinking of somthing like one of them bite lights you hook on your rod and when a fish take the bait the line pull from the slot and the light comes on and i can set the tension on how easily the line can be pulled from the slot,ive got one laying around here somewere made by berkley...thanks for the tips guys,now that i think about it the line idea isnt a very good one since it would be an awful lot of tension and could shy a fish away from fully taking the bait. just and idea,i reckon ill give her a try one night this spring.
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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2007, 08:36:29 AM » |
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your definately on the right track,,,,and I'm sure when an agressive fish bite it will work, but like you I would be concerned about the shy bite. The only other thing I can see bad is wrapping up in your verticle post,,,that would be real bad :smile:
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MadKatter
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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2007, 08:49:05 AM » |
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yuppers that would be very bad..i could just try the king rig like pat posted but im just to dang stuborn and want to come up with another way lol...if only there where standing trees out there i could suspend the baits like limb lines and wouldnt have to worry about hanging up on the anchore pole,just have to keep it off the tree lol. i like using floats but i cnat ever keep my baits in the spot i want em so i shy away from using them alot because of the "hassle".i could always attach a float to a 3-way rig and go out and find the exact depth of the spots i fish and set my float stop to said depth,i reckon that would keep my baits where i wanted them.
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M_Magis
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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2007, 01:32:02 PM » |
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Try a dropper line with a sinker under a bait suspended from a float. This will keep your bait in one spot, without the hassle of driving a stake every place you want a bait. The exact depth isn't important. Just make sure to set it a little deeper than you think the depth is, an extra foot of two should be okay. Don't worry about pressure spooking a fish. I've seen enough fish hauled in from jugs and limb lines to be quite confident that a little pressure won't deter most flatheads. I suspect they're used to prey struggling. :smile:
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